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Episode 62: Reflections on Race and Racism with a Black Ex-Police Officer

September 3, 2020 Simma Lieberman

Reflections on Race and Racism with a Black Ex-Police Officer

Anthony Sturkey, a Black ex-officer from the Long Beach Police Department joins me on this Conversation on race to offer a realistic perspective on what’s happening today in the US regarding race, racism and law enforcement.

Key Topics:

The fact that we now have cameras that document police brutality means that people see brutalization of Black people at the hands of law enforcement
Racism in the police department is not new, is embedded in the system and is systemic
The necessity and importance of Black Police Associations
Anthony’s experience having to work alongside of another officer who was a KKK member
Why he believes that it’s a fallacy that police departments don’t know about “bad cops” and racists
His observations and opinion that that there are three types of Black police officers and what they do to survive
How Anthony survived for ten years as a law enforcement officer until it was time for him to leave
His thoughts on how the police academy programs new officers to just stand by and not intercede when they see brutality, and that people who would intercede are filtered out

Episode 60: White people activists

August 4, 2020 Simma Lieberman

In this conversation on race, LeRon Barton asks. “Why are white people interested in helping out now? Where were you ten/ twenty years ago?”

We wonder what is making white folks come out now? Is it because they saw the very public murder of George Floyd? Did they understand the systemic racism and murder of other Black people by white racists in law enforcement and white supremacists?

Key Points in this episode of Everyday Conversations on Race

1- Black people are tired but still have to be active and not let up. White people and other non-Black people need to follow the lead and participate.

2- This is the same systemic racism that puts young kids in ICE camps, separates families and treats immigrants as less than human

3- LeRon talks about his partner Michelle who is LatinX and says that what impact her as a Latina impacts him, and that we have to all take the position that what impacts our friends and families impacts us (if we we have friends and family from different races and cultures.) We have to know what impacts the people in our lives and the people we care about about.

4- The importance of thinking outside of ourselves. This is particularly important for white people, many who are just beginning to think outside of themselves.

5- The time to act is now, we will need to tell future generations what we did during this time. Be on the right side of history.

6- Inaction is action-it’s choosing to ride with the other side.

7- When people just stand by and do nothing- they help deny Black and Brown people voting rights, and they help normalize confederate flags

8- Black people going to Robert E. Lee High School can compare to a Jewish person going to Adolph Hitler Higher School. Think about that!

9- The murder of the Rosenbergs and prosecution by Roy Cohen and J. Edgar Hoover

10- LeRon talks about how he used to laugh or get irritated when white people saw documentaries like “When They See Us,” and would get emotional. He says that he realizes it was wrong and that people have a right to feel. “I will never ridicule anyone again like that,” say LeRon. “I realize we need everyone.

11- Why LeRon doesn’t trust white allies but sees their importance and wants them to continue being allies and stepping up.

Episode 59: Race, Reconciliation and Transformation

July 20, 2020 Simma Lieberman

My guests on “Everyday Conversations on Race” are Wanda Whitaker, Peter Rubin and Gaylon Logan from Village Connect. This episode is “Race, Reconciliation and Transformation.”

Wanda Whitaker is African-American, a humanitarian, spiritual healer and visionary who brings people together to find their highest potential.

Peter Rubin is white, Jewish, 35 years old and an anti-racist facilitator. He was raised in a multi-cultural anti-racist environment but didn’t become aware of this white privilege until a few years ago which is when he was trained in anti-racist facilitation.

Gaylon Logan is African-American, a father, grandfather and founder of Village Connect a 501C3 who is a leader of CBTC- Culture Based Transformative Coaching. His mission and the mission of Village Connect is to build the capacity of people to be self-aware, self-directed and be empowered to have the life they want.

All three share their stories of how they came to be aware of race, racism and the need for racial reconciliation.

Key topics:

Why we need to be human beings as opposed to human doings, and human “havings.”

The trauma of racism, growing up in the south under segregation, and seeing the humiliation of Black people by racist, disgusting white people

What Black people had to do in order to survive racism and the total impact of those survival tactics

How Village Connect works with school age children to raise their self-esteem, and give kids the sense of self that so many lack in how they are raised

Information alone doesn’t change people’s lives. You need to reach their hearts, engage with them and help them transform
The impact and harm of being taught at an early age that it’s not ok for men to show feelings or cry in front of people

Village Connect is a direct response to loss of humanity and brings people back to humanity

How Wanda, and Peter are working with Gaylon on the Village Connect program, Race and Reconciliation, how to heal yourself from racism,” for white people
Focusing on humanity as we work on race and reconciliation is one of the keys to transformation for all people

Episode 58: Black Trans Lives

July 6, 2020 Simma Lieberman

Kairo Jamal Evans joins me for this Conversation on Race to talk about his experience as a 25-year-old Black Trans Man. He’s an entrepreneur who makes tee-shirts to spread the word of self-awareness. Listen in to hear about his transition, his tee-shirt business Kuriosity focuses on self-awareness through self-research.

Key Points:

Growing up Black in Oakland and not being aware of racism until he was a little older.
Having a white grandmother and the fact that his mother had to deal with racism.
Transphobia in the LGBTQ community
The murders of Black trans women in the US and Black trans men
Male privilege as a trans man but also potentially targeted as a Black man because of racism and higher chances of being stopped by police or white racists
Kairo shares his experience of being stopped by police while driving
He has to always act calm with police no matter what
Kairo has a YouTube channel and he’s noticed that YouTubers who are white get more attention and support than YouTubers who are people of color
Racism in the LGBTQ community
Dealing with being Black in the LGBTQ community
Trans man are sometimes targeted by lesbians who can be antagonistic
Surprising to me it’s mostly younger lesbians who are the most harsh
He accepts that he’s in a different mindset
How his family came to accept and support him
Why aren’t more people taking up the cry for Black Trans people
How heartbreaking it was after the murder of Tony McCabe that he was misgendered
The dangers of being trans and being Black trans
It takes a whole village to grow the community

Bio of Kairo Jamal Evans in his own words:

My name is Kairo Jamal Evans. I am a female to male trans man, born and raised in Oakland, CA. I graduated from Oakland Technical High School in 2013 and continued a collegiate education for 3 years at the California State University, Northridge. (GO MATADORS!) My focus in school was on film, which is a career I still plan to pursue. I began my medical transition in the Fall of 2016, which even though was a difficult process, in the beginning, has grown to become the best decision I’ve ever made. I now have started a small t-shirt line [Kuriosity Clothing Co.] with personal designs, and one day plan on opening a studio for kids to come to create, and learn more about the arts! Since becoming me, I have developed an astonishing amount of confidence. I am now ready to take on the world as my true self.

Episode 57: Living While Black

June 25, 2020 Simma Lieberman

On this Episode of Everyday Conversations on Race, I’m joined by my very close friend and colleague, Dr. Joel Brown. Joel is an international known organizational and leadership development consultant. He is a spoken word poet, and a thought leader in Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging. The president and founder of Pneumos, Joel is known as the cultivator.

Key Topics:

Messages he received as a young Black man growing up in Milwaukee
Avoid the police who would shoot first and ask questions later
How to talk to the police if he ever go stopped so he wouldn’t be shot or put in jail
Be grateful that to go to a school with white kids
Because of racism, he would have to work twice as hard as white people
These warnings and lessons have stayed with him all of these years
What it was like to have to have relatives in law enforcement and the difficulties they had to endure
How Joel learned about the racism and toxic masculinity of “blue culture” from his relatives in law enforcement
The many times and different cities he has been stopped by police just living or driving while black
The real problem with the phrase “all lives matter”
The fact that Black people are traumatized, hurting and exhausted but he is encouraged by the fact that so many white and other non-Black people of color are outraged, marching and speaking out
Why he thinks that the phrase “Defund the Police” should be changed to “Reallocate funds” and that it would be more effective in getting the same results
And what’s up with Antifa

Contact info for Joel Brown:

Joel@Pneumos.com

www.souletry.com

www.Pneumos.com

Twitter: JoelBrown7

IG: JoelABrown

Episode 56: Police Bias and Black Panthers

June 10, 2020 Simma Lieberman

In this Everyday Conversation on Race, I’m joined by white ex-police officer Charles Hayes, author of the book “Blue Bias,” and Elmer Dixon founder and former leader of the Seattle Black Panthers. They share their personal histories, their work around race and their perspectives on fighting against racism in the wake of the murder of George Floyd and ensuing world-wide protests.

In 1968, Elmer Dixon and his brother Aaron came to Oakland to hear Bobby Seale the chairman of the Black Panther Party speak. Right after, they decided to form a chapter of the Black Panther Party in Seattle. It was the first chapter outside of California, and lasted until 1982, making it the longest running Black Panther chapter. The medical clinic they started is still operating.

Today, Elmer still works to eliminate racism, injustice and inequities in the US, as president of the Executive Diversity Services an organizational development consulting firm.

Charles Hayes grew up in Oklahoma and Texas in the 1940s and 1950s. He joined the Marines at 17, and four years later became a police officer in Dallas. He says that that the area and the department were racist to the core.

Charles burnt out after several years due to constant calls to break up situations of domestic violence. He didn’t have the maturity to understand the deeper issues affecting people in these situations.

After leaving the police department he began learning about life and reading in order to educate himself. His life changed when he read a “Letter from a Birmingham Jail,” by Martin Luther King. That’s when he decided to work on unraveling the racist education he got.

As a consultant, Elmer had the opportunity to work with police. After leading successful programs for police in Chicago, he went on work with police in Washington, Ireland and other cities. As a member of the Black Panther Party, which was named the Number One threat to US Security by the FBI, working with the police was a major shift in perspective for him.

Key topics in this episode:

• The origin, and manifestations of police bias

• The role of neuroscience, external stimuli and stressors in the development of unconscious bias amongst cops

• How the police department attracts people with authoritarian personality

• Deaths of unarmed Black and Brown people at the hands of police

• The murders of George Floyd. Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, along with the confluence of people sheltering in place, not working, struggling financially has put us at a tipping point in this country and the world

• How some Black police officers internalize bias and brutalize people in the Black community

• Solutions to end racist police practices

• Lessons learned from the Black Panther Party for today’s fight against racism, police brutality and injustice

• Why a coherent vision and plan is necessary to sustain momentum and create systemic change, and what that might look like.

Links:

email Charles Hayes autpress@alaska.net

email Elmer Dixon EDixon@ExecutiveDiversity.com

Episode 55: Karen Controversy

June 1, 2020 Simma Lieberman

The term “Karen” to describe certain white women who exhibit extreme privileged entitled behavior began on social media and is quickly becoming part of today’s lexicon. As my guests in this episode of “Everyday Conversations on Race” explain, the archetype of a “Karen” would be a white woman who goes to Starbucks, usually dressed a certain way and expects to be treated like the only customer. When the barista spells her name wrong, she demands to see the manager and must have a new cup.

However, a group of white women complain that the term is “racist towards white women, ageist and classist. They are demanding the end of this term.

In this Conversation on Race, I’m joined by two women named Karen, who share their perspective on calling certain white women “Karens” for their white privilege behavior.

Karen Fleshman is a white woman, who founded the organization “Racy Conversations,” an anti-racist group. She has written about the term and why she agrees with it. In this conversation on race, this Karen shares her background and how she came to be an active, outspoken anti-racist.

Commissioner Karen Clopton is an African-American woman who grew up in South Central Los Angeles. It was segregated by race but had a mix of professionals and working-class people. She is a member of the SF Civil Rights Commission. She shares her experience as a young Black woman in a family that taught her early on about what it meant to be Black growing up in the USA.

Key Topics:

Is it racist against white people, sexist against white women or ageist against white women to use the descriptor “Karen” to describe entitled behavior by certain white women.
How to talk about racism to white people
Why not talking about race and racism to children is racist
The way racism has been institutionalized since the founding of the US
How white people by default are beneficiaries of racism and have privilege as a result
Why white supremacists think they are shielded from COVID
Bringing the controversy to light of the “Karen” phenomena
What the term “Karen” means when it refers to actions of some white women
Why the two Karens don’t take offense at the term and why they think it’s justified
What “peak Karen” looks like
If you would like to see a “Karen” in action, look for the video of Amy Cooper, a white woman walking her unleashed dog in Central Park in an area that clearly stated dogs must be leashed because it was a habitat for birds. When an African-American man who was there to study birds asked her to leash her dog, she threatened him and called the police saying she was afraid for her life of an African-American man harassing her.

Guest Bios:

An award-winning trailblazer, Karen Valentia Clopton brings deep knowledge, demonstrated operational expertise, and non-partisan insight into the political and regulatory arenas. She has served in top leadership, board, and executive roles in both governmental and non-governmental organizations across many regulated industries. General Counsel and Vice President of Access and Inclusion for Incendio International, Inc. and a nationally recognized civil rights advocate, she also serves as a San Francisco Human Rights Commissioner.

Karen Fleshman is the founder of Racy Conversations and is a racial equity trainer and government accountability activist striving to build and support a community of people committed to love, learning, accountability, and action on race in America. She is the author of the book White Women, We Need to Talk: Doing Our Part to End Racism

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